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Thursday, July 10, 2014
Israel Palestine Conflict
Sami Nardone, Mason McNulty, and Molly Gibson discuss the conflict between Israel and Palestine, as well as its magnitude, and its direction.
Guys, this podcast was fantastic! I was not aware of all of the specific occurrences of attacks both on individuals and between territories. I knew that the conflict was ongoing, however, I didn't know just how active the situation currently is...thank you for covering this! At one point, you stated that the media is biased towards Israel. Is this solely pertaining to the US media since we're siding with Israel, or does this apply to most of the world as well? Is the world split on this issue, or does one territory possess the majority of the world's support? Overall, great podcast! I really enjoyed listening to it!
Awesome job guys! I loved how much information you added into this. It was clear you all had researched this a lot. I thought that it was interesting to be able to hear some more of the facts behind this story. I had only been familiar to the recent news about the Palestinian boy who was brutally beaten. Do you think that the use of media on this conflict has intensified violence or just broadcasted preexisting conflict?
This was great. I liked how you started right off by just stating the background and started leaning towards your main points. I didn't realize that the situation had gotten to that point so thank you so much for giving an update. I thought Mason answering questions made the questions listeners were asking themselves clear. I was wondering if you guys think that the facebook page shouldn't have been created, or was it excercising freedom of speech?
This was a great podcast. I didn't know about a lot of the specifics in this conflict. The change of voices also helped keep your viewers interested. I appreciated the social media section of this podcast and I didn't even realize the Facebook page existed. I also liked the information about the airstrikes and the podcast gave me a lot more background information about the conflict.
you guys did a really good job. you all sound really professional and the content is very informative and you kept my interest throughout the entire podcast.
Great job you guys! It is evident that you guys thoroughly researched your topic and the other sides of the Israeli and Palestinian people. My attention was not lost throughout the podcast and it was informative!
Hey guys, great job on this! You presented a nuanced view of the conflict which is often difficult to do. I'm looking forward to the discussion at lunch today.
I have a few things I wanted to mention though. First, your history is a bit off on both the creation of Israel and what the West Bank is. The land was given to the Zionists by Europeans despite the fact that there were already a people living there (Palestinians), which you mentioned. But you said that "The Israelis returned to their land" which is a strange thing to say. There were no Israelis before European Jews moved there. True, there were Jews that lived in the area thousands of years ago, but there have been many people who have lived there in between, including most recently, for centuries, an Arab people. That would be like having fundamentalist Christians from the south invading the Vatican, setting up civilization and saying that they are "returning" to their land just because there were ancient religious ties. Also, Israeli Jews have never lived in the West Bank, except as illegal settlers. You said that Israelis took the land and then "years later" it became occupied by Palestinians. This is not true at all - Arabs have always lived on that land. In fact, for the first 20 years of Israel's existence, that land was governed by Jordan. It was only in 1967 during the Six Day war that Israel annexed the West Bank and began their military occupation of the West Bank. Before the Zionist movement, during the Zionist movement, during the creation of Israel and now, Arabs have lived on that land and never Israeli Jews.
One other point I wanted to make was the idea of the power dynamic between the two parties. You talked about the intention of Hamas (indiscriminately firing missiles) vs. that of Israel (trying to "end the conflict"). This is certainly not a defense of Hamas firing missiles, but I think Israel saying they are trying to "end the conflict" is disingenuous at the very least. They are bombing one of the most densely populated areas in the world and killing civilians by the dozens. During the most recent airstrikes and missile attacks, over 100 Palestinians have been killed and 0 Israelis have been killed. Despite intention, we have to ask ourselves - who is actually killing civilians? The Israelis are. Check out this MSNBC segment for more on that idea: http://t.co/QuhlSfDkvC . Also, Israel's other actions indicate that they are NOT trying to end the conflict. Despite international injunctions and having no clear reason other than a land grab, Israel continues to build illegal settlements within Palestine. If they are actually trying to end the conflict (and not win a land war) they would immediately halt this process.
Thank you for your response and excellent points. It would be great if you could attend the Community Discussion today at lunch to defend your perspective.
Guys, this podcast was fantastic! I was not aware of all of the specific occurrences of attacks both on individuals and between territories. I knew that the conflict was ongoing, however, I didn't know just how active the situation currently is...thank you for covering this! At one point, you stated that the media is biased towards Israel. Is this solely pertaining to the US media since we're siding with Israel, or does this apply to most of the world as well? Is the world split on this issue, or does one territory possess the majority of the world's support? Overall, great podcast! I really enjoyed listening to it!
ReplyDeleteAwesome job guys! I loved how much information you added into this. It was clear you all had researched this a lot. I thought that it was interesting to be able to hear some more of the facts behind this story. I had only been familiar to the recent news about the Palestinian boy who was brutally beaten. Do you think that the use of media on this conflict has intensified violence or just broadcasted preexisting conflict?
ReplyDeleteThis was great. I liked how you started right off by just stating the background and started leaning towards your main points. I didn't realize that the situation had gotten to that point so thank you so much for giving an update. I thought Mason answering questions made the questions listeners were asking themselves clear. I was wondering if you guys think that the facebook page shouldn't have been created, or was it excercising freedom of speech?
ReplyDeleteThis was a great podcast. I didn't know about a lot of the specifics in this conflict. The change of voices also helped keep your viewers interested. I appreciated the social media section of this podcast and I didn't even realize the Facebook page existed. I also liked the information about the airstrikes and the podcast gave me a lot more background information about the conflict.
ReplyDeleteyou guys did a really good job. you all sound really professional and the content is very informative and you kept my interest throughout the entire podcast.
ReplyDeleteGreat job you guys! It is evident that you guys thoroughly researched your topic and the other sides of the Israeli and Palestinian people. My attention was not lost throughout the podcast and it was informative!
ReplyDeleteDefinitely sounds like you put in the time for some solid research, sounds really professional!
ReplyDeleteHey guys, great job on this! You presented a nuanced view of the conflict which is often difficult to do. I'm looking forward to the discussion at lunch today.
ReplyDeleteI have a few things I wanted to mention though. First, your history is a bit off on both the creation of Israel and what the West Bank is. The land was given to the Zionists by Europeans despite the fact that there were already a people living there (Palestinians), which you mentioned. But you said that "The Israelis returned to their land" which is a strange thing to say. There were no Israelis before European Jews moved there. True, there were Jews that lived in the area thousands of years ago, but there have been many people who have lived there in between, including most recently, for centuries, an Arab people. That would be like having fundamentalist Christians from the south invading the Vatican, setting up civilization and saying that they are "returning" to their land just because there were ancient religious ties.
Also, Israeli Jews have never lived in the West Bank, except as illegal settlers. You said that Israelis took the land and then "years later" it became occupied by Palestinians. This is not true at all - Arabs have always lived on that land. In fact, for the first 20 years of Israel's existence, that land was governed by Jordan. It was only in 1967 during the Six Day war that Israel annexed the West Bank and began their military occupation of the West Bank. Before the Zionist movement, during the Zionist movement, during the creation of Israel and now, Arabs have lived on that land and never Israeli Jews.
One other point I wanted to make was the idea of the power dynamic between the two parties. You talked about the intention of Hamas (indiscriminately firing missiles) vs. that of Israel (trying to "end the conflict"). This is certainly not a defense of Hamas firing missiles, but I think Israel saying they are trying to "end the conflict" is disingenuous at the very least. They are bombing one of the most densely populated areas in the world and killing civilians by the dozens. During the most recent airstrikes and missile attacks, over 100 Palestinians have been killed and 0 Israelis have been killed. Despite intention, we have to ask ourselves - who is actually killing civilians? The Israelis are. Check out this MSNBC segment for more on that idea: http://t.co/QuhlSfDkvC .
Also, Israel's other actions indicate that they are NOT trying to end the conflict. Despite international injunctions and having no clear reason other than a land grab, Israel continues to build illegal settlements within Palestine. If they are actually trying to end the conflict (and not win a land war) they would immediately halt this process.
Thank you for your response and excellent points. It would be great if you could attend the Community Discussion today at lunch to defend your perspective.
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